diff --git a/R/cave-tables.R b/R/cave-tables.R
index 82ef423..509a193 100644
--- a/R/cave-tables.R
+++ b/R/cave-tables.R
@@ -67,10 +67,13 @@ banc_nuclei <- function (rootids = NULL,
   else if (!is.null(rootids)) {
     rootids <- banc_ids(rootids)
     nuclei <- if (length(rootids) < 200)
-      banc_cave_query(table =  table, filter_in_dict = list(pt_root_id=rootids),
+      banc_cave_query(table =  table,
+                      filter_in_dict = list(pt_root_id=rootids),
                       ...)
     else
-      banc_cave_query(table =  table, live = F, ...)
+      banc_cave_query(table =  table,
+                      live = TRUE,
+                      ...)
     if (nrow(nuclei) == 0)
       return(nuclei)
     nuclei <- nuclei %>%
@@ -89,25 +92,27 @@ banc_nuclei <- function (rootids = NULL,
     }
   } else {
     nuclei <- banc_cave_query(table = table,
-                                filter_in_dict = list(id=nucleus_ids), ...)
+                              filter_in_dict = list(id=nucleus_ids),
+                              ...)
     nuclei %>%
       dplyr::right_join(data.frame(id = as.integer64(nucleus_ids)), by = "id") %>%
       dplyr::select(colnames(nuclei))
   }
-  res
-  if (isTRUE(rawcoords))
-    res
-  else {
-    res <- res %>%
-      dplyr::mutate(dplyr::across(dplyr::ends_with("position"), function(x)
-      nat::xyzmatrix2str(banc_raw2nm(x))))
-    res$pt_position <- sapply(res$pt_position, paste, collapse=", ")
-    res <- res %>%
-      dplyr::rename(nucleus_id = .data$id,
-                    nucleus_position_nm = .data$pt_position,
-                    root_id = .data$pt_root_id) %>%
-      dplyr::filter(.data$valid=="t")
+  res$pt_position <- sapply(res$pt_position, paste, collapse=", ")
+  # res$pt_position_ref <- sapply(res$pt_position_ref, paste, collapse=", ")
+  res <- res %>%
+    dplyr::rename(nucleus_id = .data$id,
+                  nucleus_position = .data$pt_position,
+                  root_id = .data$pt_root_id) %>%
+    dplyr::filter(.data$valid=="t")
+  if (isFALSE(rawcoords)) {
+    # res <- res %>%
+    #   dplyr::mutate(dplyr::across(dplyr::ends_with("position"), function(x)
+    #   nat::xyzmatrix2str(banc_raw2nm(x))))
+    res$nucleus_position_nm <- apply(banc_raw2nm(res$nucleus_position),1,paste_coords)
+    res$nucleus_position_nm  <- gsub("\\(|\\)","",res$nucleus_position_nm)
   }
+  res
 }
 
 #' @rdname banc_cave_tables
@@ -159,7 +164,7 @@ get_cave_table_data <- function(table, rootids = NULL, ...){
       fafbseg::flywire_cave_query(table =  table,
                          filter_in_dict = list(pt_root_id=rootids), ...)
     } else {
-      fafbseg::flywire_cave_query(table =  table, live = F, ...)
+      fafbseg::flywire_cave_query(table =  table, live = TRUE, ...)
     }
   } else {
     df <- fafbseg::flywire_cave_query(table =  table , ...)
@@ -168,10 +173,11 @@ get_cave_table_data <- function(table, rootids = NULL, ...){
 }
 
 # hidden
-banc_cave_cell_types <- function(){
+banc_cave_cell_types <- function(user_id = NULL){
   banc.cell.info <- banc_cell_info(rawcoords = TRUE)
   banc.cell.info$pt_position <- sapply(banc.cell.info$pt_position, paste, collapse=", ")
   banc.cell.info.mod <- banc.cell.info %>%
+    dplyr::filter(valid == 't') %>%
     dplyr::rowwise() %>%
     dplyr::mutate(pt_position = paste0(pt_position,collapse=",")) %>%
     dplyr::ungroup() %>%
@@ -189,10 +195,7 @@ banc_cave_cell_types <- function(){
       TRUE ~ NA
     )) %>%
     dplyr::mutate(user_id = dplyr::case_when(
-      grepl("neuron identity", tag2) ~ user_id,
-      grepl("^DN|^AMMC|^PDN|^LH|^il|^T1|^T5|^T4|^TY4|^IN|^il|^HS|^Mi|^PS|^CB|^FB|^AL|
-            ^FET|^bCS|SEZ-NSC-Hugin|^MDN|^OA|^PS|^ovi|giant fiber|^m-NSC|^l-NSC-ITP
-            |^OA|^LH|^CSD|^BDN|^AN|^AL|^AV|^AN|^MN|^SA|^Mi|^LH|^L1|^BDN|^LAL",tag) ~ user_id,
+      !is.na(cell_type) ~ user_id,
       TRUE ~ NA
     )) %>%
     dplyr::mutate(cell_type = gsub("\\\n.*|\\*.*","",cell_type)) %>%
@@ -224,10 +227,80 @@ banc_cave_cell_types <- function(){
                   cell_class = paste(unique(na.omit(sort(cell_class))), collapse = ", "),
                   super_class = paste(unique(na.omit(sort(super_class))), collapse = ", "),
                   cell_type = paste(unique(na.omit(sort(cell_type))), collapse = ", "),
-                  side = paste(unique(na.omit(sort(side))), collapse = ", ")) %>%
+                  side = paste(unique(na.omit(sort(side))), collapse = ", "),
+                  user_id = paste(unique(na.omit(sort(user_id))), collapse = ", ")) %>%
     dplyr::ungroup() %>%
     dplyr::rename(cell_id = id, root_id = pt_root_id, supervoxel_id = pt_supervoxel_id, position = pt_position) %>%
     dplyr::distinct(root_id, supervoxel_id, side, super_class, cell_class, cell_type, .keep_all = TRUE) %>%
-    dplyr::select(cell_id, root_id, supervoxel_id, position, side, super_class, cell_class, cell_type, user_id, notes)
+    dplyr::select(cell_id, root_id, supervoxel_id, position, side, super_class, cell_class, cell_type, user_id,notes) %>%
+    dplyr::left_join(banc_users %>% dplyr::distinct(pi_lab,cave_id) %>% dplyr::mutate(cave_id=as.character(cave_id)),
+                     by=c("user_id"="cave_id")) %>%
+    dplyr::rename(cell_type_source = pi_lab)
   banc.cell.info.mod
 }
+
+# # # Updated cell_type_source column based on CAVE
+# banc.cell.info.mod <- banc_cave_cell_types()
+# banc.cell.info.mod <- subset(banc.cell.info.mod, ! user_id %in% c(355,52))
+# bc.all <- banctable_query("SELECT _id, root_id, cell_type, other_names, super_class, cell_class, proofread, region, cell_type_source from banc_meta")
+# bc.all$cell_type_source <- unlist(sapply(bc.all$cell_type_source ,function(x) paste(unlist(x),collapse=", ")))
+# bc.ct <- bc.all %>%
+#   dplyr::left_join(banc.cell.info.mod %>%
+#                      dplyr::mutate(root_id=as.character(root_id)) %>%
+#                      dplyr::distinct(root_id, cell_type, cell_type_source),
+#                    by = "root_id") %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(
+#     other_names = ifelse(is.na(other_names),'',other_names),
+#     cell_type_source.y = gsub("Rachel Wilson Lab", "Wilson lab", cell_type_source.y),
+#     cell_type_source.y = ifelse(is.na(cell_type_source.y),NA,tolower(cell_type_source.y)),
+#     cell_type_source.x = ifelse(is.na(cell_type_source.x),NA,tolower(cell_type_source.x)),
+#     cell_type_source.x = ifelse(grepl("NA|na|princeton|community|CAVE|Princeton",cell_type_source.x),NA,cell_type_source.x),
+#     cell_type_source.x = ifelse(cell_type_source.x%in%c("","NA"),NA,cell_type_source.x),
+#     cell_type_source.y = ifelse(cell_type_source.y%in%c("","NA"),NA,cell_type_source.y)) %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(cell_type = dplyr::case_when(
+#     is.na(cell_type.x) ~ cell_type.y,
+#     is.na(cell_type.y) ~ cell_type.x,
+#     TRUE ~ cell_type.x),
+#   ) %>%
+#   dplyr::rowwise() %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(other_names = dplyr::case_when(
+#     (!is.na(cell_type.x)&!is.na(cell_type.y)) &  (cell_type.y!= cell_type.x) ~ paste(sort(unique(c(unlist(strsplit(other_names,split=", ")),cell_type.y))),collapse=", "),
+#     TRUE ~ other_names
+#   )) %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(
+#     cell_type_source.y = cell_type_source.y,
+#     cell_type_source.x = cell_type_source.x,
+#     cell_type_source = dplyr::case_when(
+#     is.na(cell_type_source.x) ~ cell_type_source.y,
+#     is.na(cell_type_source.y) ~ cell_type_source.x,
+#     cell_type_source.x=="NA" ~ cell_type_source.y,
+#     cell_type_source.y=="NA" ~ cell_type_source.x,
+#     cell_type_source.x=="cave"&!is.na(cell_type_source.y) ~ cell_type_source.y,
+#     cell_type_source.x=="community"&!is.na(cell_type_source.y) ~ cell_type_source.y,
+#     cell_type_source.x==""&!is.na(cell_type_source.y) ~ cell_type_source.y,
+#     !is.na(cell_type_source.x)&!is.na(cell_type_source.y) ~ paste(sort(unique(c(cell_type_source.x,cell_type_source.y)),
+#                                                                        decreasing=TRUE),
+#                                                                   collapse=","),
+#     TRUE ~ cell_type_source.x
+#   )) %>%
+#   dplyr::filter(!is.na(cell_type_source), cell_type_source!="") %>%
+#   dplyr::distinct(`_id`, root_id, .keep_all = TRUE) %>%
+#   dplyr::select(`_id`, root_id, cell_type, other_names, cell_type_source,
+#                   super_class, cell_class, proofread, region) %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(other_names = gsub("^,|^ ,|^ ","",other_names),
+#                 cell_type_source = ifelse(cell_type_source=='151184',NA,cell_type_source))
+#
+# #Add cell type source labels
+# bc.update <- as.data.frame(bc.ct)
+# bc.update[is.na(bc.update)] <- ''
+# banctable_update_rows(base='banc_meta',
+#                       table = "banc_meta",
+#                       df = bc.update[,c("_id","cell_type", "other_names", "cell_type_source")],
+#                       append_allowed = FALSE,
+#                       chunksize = 1000)
+
+
+
+
+
+
diff --git a/R/data.R b/R/data.R
index 5194f3b..fc6d381 100644
--- a/R/data.R
+++ b/R/data.R
@@ -200,4 +200,29 @@
 #' `banc_brain_neuropil.surf$RegionList`
 "banc_volumes.df"
 
+#' User information (name + CAVE ID) for active BANC users
+#'
+#' @name banc_users
+#' @docType data
+#' @description The purpose of this table is to map CAVE users IDs to names, in order to credit annotation work done in BANC CAVE.
+#' This information is based on \href{https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UFmeWr2uF9jTLVMw3bD6nM3ejM-b-HDZz6sQBPTEoZ8/edit?gid=1163959922#gid=1163959922}{google sheet}.
+#'
+#' @examples
+#' \dontrun{
+#' View(banc_users)
+#' }
+"banc_users"
+
+# banc_users <- googlesheets4::read_sheet("1UFmeWr2uF9jTLVMw3bD6nM3ejM-b-HDZz6sQBPTEoZ8")
+# colnames(banc_users) <- snakecase::to_snake_case(colnames(banc_users))
+# banc_users <- banc_users %>%
+#   dplyr::select(name, pi_lab, cave_id) %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(name = gsub("\\(.*","",name)) %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(pi_lab = gsub("\\(.*","",pi_lab)) %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(pi_lab = ifelse(is.na(pi_lab),name,pi_lab)) %>%
+#   dplyr::mutate(pi_lab = ifelse(pi_lab=="PI",paste0(name," lab"),pi_lab)) %>%
+#   dplyr::arrange(pi_lab, name) %>%
+#   dplyr::distinct(cave_id, .keep_all = TRUE) %>%
+#   dplyr::filter(!is.na(pi_lab))
+# usethis::use_data(banc_users, overwrite = TRUE)
 
diff --git a/R/l2.R b/R/l2.R
index 786c917..c4bbebe 100644
--- a/R/l2.R
+++ b/R/l2.R
@@ -92,8 +92,8 @@ banc_read_l2skel <- function(id, OmitFailures=TRUE, dataset=NULL, ...) {
 #' @param id (Optional) The `root_id` of the neuron in the `roots` data
 #' frame. If NULL, it will be taken from the `x$root_id` slot.
 #' @param roots A data frame containing information about root points, i.e. nuclei
-#' obtained using `bancr::roots()`. This data frame is assumed to have
-#' columns named `root_id` and `pt_position`, where `pt_position`
+#' obtained using `bancr:::banc_roots()`. This data frame is assumed to have
+#' columns named `root_id` and `root_position_nm`, where `root_position_nm`
 #' specifies the 3D coordinates of the soma for each `root_id`.
 #' @param estimate if \code{TRUE} and nucleus position is not in `roots`,
 #' then root is estimated as a leaf node furthest outside of the brain neuropil.
@@ -122,9 +122,18 @@ banc_reroot.neuron <- function(x, id = NULL, roots = NULL, estimate = TRUE, ...)
   if(is.null(id)){
     stop("a root_id in roots must be given")
   }
-  df <- subset(roots, roots$root_id==id & !is.na(roots$pt_position))
+  if("root_position_nm"%in%colnames(roots)){
+    if("root_position"%in%colnames(roots)){
+      warning("root_position_nm, converting root_position to root_position_nm")
+      roots$root_position_nm <- apply(banc_raw2nm(roots$root_position),1, paste_coords)
+      roots$root_position_nm  <- gsub("\\(|\\)","",roots$root_position_nm)
+    }else{
+      stop("root_position_nm not found in roots")
+    }
+  }
+  df <- subset(roots, roots$root_id==id & !is.na(roots$root_position_nm))
   if(nrow(df)){
-    soma <- nat::xyzmatrix(df$pt_position)[1,]
+    soma <- nat::xyzmatrix(df$root_position_nm)[1,]
     x <- nat::reroot(x = x, point = c(soma))
     x$tags$soma <- nat::rootpoints(x)
   }else if (estimate){ # As best we can
@@ -161,23 +170,44 @@ banc_reroot.neuronlist <- function(x, id = NULL, roots = NULL, estimate = TRUE,
   if(is.null(roots)){
     roots <- banc_roots()
   }
+  if("root_position_nm"%in%colnames(roots)){
+    if("root_position"%in%colnames(roots)){
+      warning("root_position_nm, converting root_position to root_position_nm")
+      roots$root_position_nm <- apply(banc_raw2nm(roots$root_position),1, paste_coords)
+      roots$root_position_nm  <- gsub("\\(|\\)","",roots$root_position_nm)
+    }else{
+      stop("root_position_nm not found in roots")
+    }
+  }
   x <- add_field_seq(x, entries=id, field="id")
   nat::nlapply(x, FUN = banc_reroot.neuron, roots = roots, id = id, estimate = estimate, ...)
 }
 
 # hidden
-banc_roots <- function(rawcoords = FALSE){
-  roots <- bancr::banc_nuclei(rawcoords = rawcoords)
-  roots$pt_position <- roots$nucleus_position_nm
-  info <- banc_cell_info(rawcoords = rawcoords)
+banc_roots <- function(){
+  # Get roots from nuclei table
+  roots <- banc_nuclei(rawcoords = FALSE)
+  roots$root_position_nm <- roots$nucleus_position_nm
+  # Neurons with no nuclei are mostly sensory, their roots are usually their tracked point
+  info <- banc_cell_info(rawcoords = FALSE)
   info$root_id <-info$pt_root_id
   xyz <- nat::xyzmatrix(info$pt_position)
   p <- nat::pointsinside(xyz,surf=bancr::banc_brain_neuropil.surf)
   info <- info[!p,]
-  roots <- rbind(roots[,c("root_id","pt_position")],info[,c("root_id","pt_position")])
+  info$root_position_nm <- info$pt_position
+  # Compile
+  roots <- rbind(roots[,c("root_id","root_position_nm")],
+                 info[,c("root_id","root_position_nm")])
+  roots$root_position <- apply(banc_nm2raw(roots$root_position_nm),1, paste_coords)
+  roots$root_position  <- gsub("\\(|\\)","",roots$root_position)
   roots
 }
 
+# hidden
+paste_coords <- function (xyz, sep = ", ", brackets = TRUE) {
+  paste0(ifelse(brackets, "(", NULL), paste(xyz, sep = sep,collapse = sep), ifelse(brackets, ")", NULL))
+}
+
 # hidden
 add_field_seq <- function (x, entries, field = "id", ...) {
   x = nat::as.neuronlist(x)
diff --git a/data/banc_users.rda b/data/banc_users.rda
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..01fd697
Binary files /dev/null and b/data/banc_users.rda differ
diff --git a/man/banc_reroot.Rd b/man/banc_reroot.Rd
index b099253..b54503a 100644
--- a/man/banc_reroot.Rd
+++ b/man/banc_reroot.Rd
@@ -19,8 +19,8 @@ banc_reroot(x, id = NULL, roots = NULL, estimate = TRUE, ...)
 frame. If NULL, it will be taken from the \code{x$root_id} slot.}
 
 \item{roots}{A data frame containing information about root points, i.e. nuclei
-obtained using \code{bancr::roots()}. This data frame is assumed to have
-columns named \code{root_id} and \code{pt_position}, where \code{pt_position}
+obtained using \code{bancr:::banc_roots()}. This data frame is assumed to have
+columns named \code{root_id} and \code{root_position_nm}, where \code{root_position_nm}
 specifies the 3D coordinates of the soma for each \code{root_id}.}
 
 \item{estimate}{if \code{TRUE} and nucleus position is not in \code{roots},
diff --git a/man/banc_users.Rd b/man/banc_users.Rd
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..8559364
--- /dev/null
+++ b/man/banc_users.Rd
@@ -0,0 +1,22 @@
+% Generated by roxygen2: do not edit by hand
+% Please edit documentation in R/data.R
+\docType{data}
+\name{banc_users}
+\alias{banc_users}
+\title{User information (name + CAVE ID) for active BANC users}
+\format{
+An object of class \code{tbl_df} (inherits from \code{tbl}, \code{data.frame}) with 206 rows and 3 columns.
+}
+\usage{
+banc_users
+}
+\description{
+The purpose of this table is to map CAVE users IDs to names, in order to credit annotation work done in BANC CAVE.
+This information is based on \href{https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UFmeWr2uF9jTLVMw3bD6nM3ejM-b-HDZz6sQBPTEoZ8/edit?gid=1163959922#gid=1163959922}{google sheet}.
+}
+\examples{
+\dontrun{
+View(banc_users)
+}
+}
+\keyword{datasets}