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Article' parameters miss "Tooltip" #184

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davidnguyen-joomlashine opened this issue Jan 4, 2020 · 11 comments
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Article' parameters miss "Tooltip" #184

davidnguyen-joomlashine opened this issue Jan 4, 2020 · 11 comments

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@davidnguyen-joomlashine
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davidnguyen-joomlashine commented Jan 4, 2020

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I'm not sure it is an issue or not. However as I see that on Joomla 3, each parameter has got its own tooltip, but it seems Joomla 4 has missed it.

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@brianteeman
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I guess you have never looked at joomla 4. Useless tooltips was one of the very first things removed. Two years ago iirc

@kawshar kawshar closed this as completed Jan 4, 2020
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kawshar commented Jan 4, 2020

Sorry, closed by accidental click.

@brianteeman
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Once again you are ignoring the criteria established for this repo and building a fork of joomla not a template.

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kawshar commented Jan 5, 2020

Well, Joomla should not have any alternative admin templates. I talked to Marco on this few days back. We have to make our mind fixed. Choose Atum or Khonsu but not both. As an extension developer, I can guarantee you that multiple templates will ruin everything.

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We told you that at the beginning. As this template is completely failing in every part of the specifications and requirements that were set and the commitment you made it is clear that you never had any intention of fulfilling the specifications

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kawshar commented Jan 5, 2020

From the beginning, the goal was to design something that people love to use. We tried to invest our time and money to design something beautiful and easy to use. The goal was not to keep the backward compatibility with Atum. To be honest, I don't believe in Atum. Atum is very unthoughtful and not ready for 2020.

About the requirements, it meets everything. Keeping backward compatibility with Atum has nothing to do with the requirements. Atum is not a standard.

Thank you.

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micker commented Jan 5, 2020

Just à little remarque... Its not possible to update atum with the best idea of koshu (style and ux)
Select best idea remove all ideas wasnt in requirement or break atum and update atum ?

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brianteeman commented Jan 5, 2020

That's the problem @kawshar you have ignored the requirements and ignored all the bug reports.

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Thank you for your design proposals!, We, the Production Team welcome every initiative of Joomlers, our user base, to contribute. In this case in the form of an alternative Back End (BE) template. Any alternative will be held to the same standards and requirements as the current template, no more, no less.

The moment of inclusion will be dependant on the speed of development. The release of J4 will not be postponed/delayed. In case the time-frame can not be met, inclusion could take place in a subsequent minor release (J4.1?)

So while it clearly was not your goal it was a fundamental requirement which you seem unwilling or unable to meet

About the requirements, it meets everything

It absolutely does not meet any of the accessibility requirements

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Hackwar commented Jan 5, 2020

Just à little remarque... Its not possible to update atum with the best idea of koshu (style and ux)
Select best idea remove all ideas wasnt in requirement or break atum and update atum ?

The current Atum template was already rewritten once with that in mind and the current state of Atum is another effort to do mostly what you are describing above. If we REALLY would open up Atum to be rewritten yet another time, I would most likely leave the project. Atum is finally "finished" and I don't see any reason to break everything again.

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kawshar commented Jan 6, 2020

Good luck with Atum.

@davidnguyen-joomlashine
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I guess you have never looked at joomla 4. Useless tooltips was one of the very first things removed. Two years ago iirc

I have just had a look J4 Alpha 12 and see that the tooltip is replaced by a small line under the field, as shown in the screenshot
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In my view, we should keep the tool-tip because it will keep the layout clean, also save the space.

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